Out of the Groove on The Daily Downforce

Jim France Opens Up (A Little Bit) | Next Gen Car Scrutinized | Reaction & Analysis

Let us know what you think

Join the conversation on socials

Eric Estepp

The #1 NASCAR content creator on YouTube, Eric Estepp hosts Out of the Groove, a daily talk show covering news and trending topics in the NASCAR fan community.

The NASCAR antitrust trial is barreling toward the finish, and today’s testimony added fuel to a case that is already running hot. Jim France was more awake, more vocal, and more willing to defend NASCAR’s decisions, but attorney Jeffrey Kessler kept pressing until the calm exterior cracked. Add in John Probst, who dove deep into the Next Gen car with the confidence of an engineer who knows every bolt, and this session delivered some of the most revealing moments yet.

  • Why did Jim France suddenly open up more today after barely speaking yesterday?
  • How did Kessler use France’s own words against him in a near mic drop courtroom moment?
  • What surprising spending numbers did John Probst reveal about the Next Gen car?
  • And how did Probst push back when teams argued NASCAR’s control of the car is anti-competitive?

This video breaks down how France tried to present himself as a consensus builder while Kessler methodically chipped away at that image, eventually cornering him into an “I don’t know how to answer that” moment that drew eyes across the courtroom. It also dives into Probst’s firm defense of the single-source parts system, the cost-cutting goals behind the Next Gen, and why the teams’ spending habits became part of NASCAR’s argument. If you’re trying to make sense of which side is landing cleaner punches as the trial nears its end, this is a must-watch.

Watch Also

Share this:

Out of the Groove is the No. 1 NASCAR News and Talk Show on YouTube. With fresh episodes produced daily, Eric’s audience — the Groovy Gang — tunes in daily not only to stay up to speed with the sport, but also to be a part of the spirited and fun online conversation.

Out of the Groove consistently delivers the latest stories from around the NASCAR world, including Cup, Xfinity, Trucks, and ARCA. Out of the Groove is the best YouTube series for fans who want to stay in the know!